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*sigh* The random explosions have started for the year. Roll on a couple of weeks' time...

(Note for Merkins and other aliens: The French have Bastille day. The American's have independance day. In Britain, we wanted an excuse to set off fireworks, but we couldn't find anything appropriate to celebrate. So instead, we celebrate a failed act of treason, and name it after one of the incompetent underlings of the plot. This is a very Britinh thing to do. Apparently, people fail to actually cemember the correct date though (Novewber 5) and take to blowing things up for a week either side. This is a very people thing to do.)

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Americans start blowing things up well before our Independence Day, and continue after; this is indeed, as you note, a very people thing to do.

November 5th we celebrate the life and legacy of Guido Fawkes (1570-1606),
the only man in history to enter the British Parliament with the
intention of making life better for his fellow-citizens... Please to
remember; and light a candle, not a bonfire.

Awwww. I remember our school's resource teacher, who was British, telling my class all about celebrating the 5th of November when she was a kid. Of course, I was about six at the time, but I thought it sounded cool. Do you guys still have bonfires?

yeah, we've already had our little 'dahlings' trying to blow each other and themeselves up by lighting the rockets and launching them 'by hand'

I tell you, if this lot had brains they'd be dangerous

Why can't we just have Explosion Day, celebrating destructive firepower?

We could hold it on August 6th.

Really? I always thought it was more of a burning Catholics sort of a thing. Every year we all get together and ritually burn a representation of one of the Catholics that dared to try to blow up the Protestant king during the opening of parliament. Sort of a, 'so don't get any ideas the rest of you!' gruesome culture of fear sort of thing. Am I missing something big about religion and 17th century politics?

Perhaps I'm just assuming that setting people on fire is all about religion (hey have you looked at that monument in the park at the (left) end of the road in front of our house? It's not a war memorial). I always saw it as pretty sinister and nasty rather than a quaint British thing.

As I remember it (could be wrong) Fawkes wasn't executed by fire, the fire imagary to me seems to be a reference to the burnings of both Protestants and Catholics by various post reformation monarchs. Sort of 'remember what used to happen to your lot' (or 'remember remember' in fact). The fireworks are explosion imagary, but I'd expect the bonfires to be the traditional part and the addition of fireworks to be the 'any excuse for a good explosion' part.

Someone rip what I'm saying to shreds please?

Hmmm. This quite probably was a reason for it at some point, but I think it's fair to say that it is neither the original reason, nor the current reason.

IIRC, originally, the lighting of bonfires around this time of year was a pagan thing. It's not a coincidence that bonfire night and hallowe'en are so close to each other -- originally they were both part of the same pagan festival Then Christianity came along, but people forgot what they were actually doing, but carried on burning things anyway, because it was fun.

Then some bright spark came along and suggested that while the people were burning things, they may as well also remember just how truly evil thos Catholics are while we're at it. And then people forgot about what they were doing, but carried on burning straw affegies of people anyway, because it was fun.

These day, people tend to somewhat hero-worship Guy Fawkes. "Oh yes, only man to enter the houses of parliament with honourable intentions, hoho". In the BBC's great Britons thing, he was voted the 30th greatest Briton of all time (just below David Bowie). People don't remember the attempted murder of hundreds of people; they don't remember that he was just a minor underling in the whole plot; they don't remember that he was utterly incompetent; they celebrate him as one of the good guys.

Or at least that's the impression that I get. I'd e interested to see the results of a survey asking various bonfire goers what it was they were actually celebrating.

I think its mainly due to kids buying fireworks and setting them off. Once 3 years ago, a kid let off fireworks hitting the side of our house - lucky none went through any windows, although when they started, I was sitting on the bog reading the paper and felt an almighty explosion and thought something blew up - ran upstairs and asked my housemate what happened, she was trying to do work, sighed and said kids are letting off fireworks at the side of our house. Pricks. (She moved soon after, as she couldn't do her work and the kids in the area didn't let her do any work)

Also walking to/from work in my area became a hazard - once I was walking along, felt a big explosion behind me, and I noticed a group of 10 year olds had let off a firework and aimed it at me, but luckily they missed. I didn't dodge it because they were behind me and I didnt hear it.

Fireworks should be banned outright from under 18 year olds, especially in run down areas - but its a shame that shows never ever let off as many fireworks - the last time I went to the firework display in Notts, paid two or so quid to get in, and it was a bloody pathetic display - the kids in the area did a far better one (albeit out of control)

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