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So just how fucked up are you?
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After a post of conuly's, I'm now curious about the demographics of people reading this. I know that there are a wide variety of geeks, freaks and losers amongst my friends, but I'm not sure just how many of you there are in the various different categoires. Hence this poll. Just fill it in according to what you believe you are, and don't bother about "but other people might not think I am" or "though other people might think I am". I've tried to come up with several synonyms wherever possible, but if I haven't picked the exact word you'd use but it's obvious what I mean, then go with it. Also, I'm well aware that I've lumped a few things that are only superficially related together; deal.

Poll #443952 How weird are my readers

Which of the following do you consider yourself to be/have/do/whatever?

depression or bipolar disorder
0(0.0%)
aspergers, autism
0(0.0%)
transgender, transsexual, transwhatever, intersex, GID
0(0.0%)
self-harm, cutting
0(0.0%)
MPD, DID, multiples
0(0.0%)
anorexia, bulimia, EDNOS, eating disorder of some sort
0(0.0%)
post traumatic stress disorder
1(1.6%)
sociophobia, agoraphobia
0(0.0%)
some other mental condition, disability, handicap or illness
0(0.0%)
gay, lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, not-straight
1(1.6%)
polyamorous, polygamous, polyandrous, non-monogamous
0(0.0%)
geek, nerd or dork
4(6.6%)
shy, socially awkward or uncomfortable, a loner
2(3.3%)
childfree
0(0.0%)
something else you deem notable
0(0.0%)

what else?



Note that the results to this are visible to anyone on my friends list. If you don't want them to see a particular item but want to tell me/be included in agregate totals, please include only those items you don't include on the above poll in the poll below, where only I can see your answers:

Poll #443953 How weird are my readers

Which of the following do you consider yourself to be/have/do/whatever?

depression or bipolar disorder
0(0.0%)
aspergers, autism
0(0.0%)
transgender, transsexual, transwhatever, intersex, GID
0(0.0%)
self-harm, cutting
0(0.0%)
MPD, DID, multiples
0(0.0%)
anorexia, bulimia, EDNOS, eating disorder of some sort
0(0.0%)
post traumatic stress disorder
0(0.0%)
sociophobia, agoraphobia
0(0.0%)
some other mental condition, disability, handicap or illness
0(0.0%)
gay, lesbian, bisexual, pansexual, asexual, not-straight
0(0.0%)
polyamorous, polygamous, polyandrous, non-monogamous
0(0.0%)
geek, nerd or dork
0(0.0%)
shy, socially awkward or uncomfortable, a loner
0(0.0%)
childfree
0(0.0%)
something else you deem notable
0(0.0%)

what else?


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I'm fairly asexual - that's why I tell people that I "think" I'm straight. I really don't have enough experience having crushes etc. to know.

I'm also "face visually impaired" and "CAPDisorganized" and Dyspraxic. The dyspraxic is the only one that I don't mind admitting to. It's not whining to say my handwriting looks like an eight year old's, or to say that I have never eaten a meal without getting food on my clothes. That's true.

Some of those, like SI and EDs, are former. I meet most of the guidelines for Asperger's, but I've never brought it up with my doctor. One of my biggest problems has always been anger control; forgot to add that in. If we get bonus points for having been institutionalized for long periods of time, I win.

Probably being overly pedantic about things you don't care about, but I'm not sure all these things fit together in the same category, somehow. I'm a little uncomfortable seeing things like queer, trans, poly and childfree next to depression, aspergers, anorexia, mental illness. But um, yeah, I'll shut up now.

That sounds overly pedantic to me. Everything listed in that poll fits into a category known as "outside the societal norm", which I think was the point of the poll.

Personally, I'm uncomfortable seeing anorexia next to aspergers, and poly next to childfree. ;)

I tried to keep them separatish, but obviously failed. If I were doing it again, I'd probably have split it into two polls: one for mental health type stuff, and one for lifestyle choices type stuff. But I didn't, so oh well.

Oh, and also, I find it interesting which of the two groups you put trans in. I know that I, for one, certainly considered it to be a mental illness. It's in DSM-IV, it's treated by psychiatrists (broadly in a way agreed with by sufferers), it causes a lot of anguish and suffering., and so on. While it is, in some ways, similar to being gay, in that it is now medically accepted that that's just the way that the brain is and the people should be accepted for that, I'd also consider that to be the case for someone with asperger's, for example. I wouldn't want to de-asperger's them; it's a part of who they are. There's a whole lot of stigma surrounding mental illness, a sort of "this is not normal so we must get rid of it so people can be happy" approach. In some cases, this is true. Depression is something that I would happily see eradicated. Likewise PTSD. With something like transsexualism or asperger's, though, it isn't something we want rid of, but it is something that can make it a whole lot harder to get by in the world, because the world just isn't set up to deal with that sort of thing.

And this is babbly, and I don't feel that I've made my point very well here, but hopefully you understand where I'm coming from.

I find it interesting which of the two groups you put trans in. I know that I, for one, certainly considered it to be a mental illness.
Very much fair enough. The way you subdivide things in this comment makes a lot of sense to me; it's not the way I'd instinctively divide things, but it's very reasonable. Thank you for your explanation, too. (And I understand the not dividing things at all, because nobody really expects that much rigour of a random LJ poll.)

I guess... I know some trans people who are really fucked up and miserable, and some who are very happy with the way they are, so I tend to conclude that simply being a different gender from the one you were born is not intrinsically a problem. Whereas I know absolutely no depressed people who are happy with being depressed.

As for Aspergers, my putting it in the mental illness category is partly just my prejudices. (I certainly don't think worse of people for having mental illness, but I agree it's socially stigmatized.) I guess the thing is it's a spectrum. For some people it's just an aspect of their personality, for others it's really disabling in a literal sense. It seems to me fairly analogous to deafness / Deafness. Though obviously deafness isn't considered a mental condition, there are some people who regard it as a disability, and others who regard it as a non-normative culture.

I didn't include multiples in my summary at all, because that one really is confusing, and sits fairly unhappily in either list. Maybe I should have left out Aspergers for similar reasons.

What about the manic-depressives though? That's a trickier issue...

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There are some things I've suffered from in the past, such as PTSD, which no longer affect me. I think I could probably go get myself diagnosed with Aspergers if I wanted to, but I don't see much point.

As others have said, it seems odd putting things that seem to be unuusual but not a problem--transgender, interesex, queer, poly, childfree, loner--along with things that include the catch-all "other mental condition, disability, handicap, or illness."
This may be because even the straight monogamous people in my social circles see that as part of a continuum, not as the default and right way to be.

(plus also mild OCD, but I think that falls below any severity radar you might have around...)

I ran out of room in the more info box :)

abuse survivor too, though you know that, and it's follows from the PTSD thing and what I said in the more info box, I think. I'm a polyglot. I think that puts me outside the social normer, at least in English speaking countries. Bahá'í. Able to leave body.

I used to be depressed, but am no longer.

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